I read there was speculation about Suavie Island and the Stepmom's phone pings being traced there on the 4th. I can't remember now if that's been talked about here yet or not. And I'm definitely not accusing her, just read they have searched there and wondered if anyone was familiar with it or if any of the visions could be linked there?
There are a few things along Hwy 30. There is actually something I've been thinking about on the SE corner of Sauvie Island, "Alder Creek Lumber." 14456 Northwest Gillihan Alder = Elder? Eckler? Kinda sounds right. You've also got: Marina Way Moorage, Multnomah Yacht Repair... If you look across 30 from the St. Briigita Catholic Church, there are some cylindrical like buildings there. Pacific Rubber and Packing, Linnton Feed and Seed, Harmer Steel Rail. More cylinders at the intersection of St. Helens Rd/30 and Hoge. Lots of cylinders and ladders there. Foss Maritime. U.S Army Corp of Engineers has a thing on the water there, Olympia Tug and Barge (more cylinders and ladders), Wacker Silktronic Corporation.
Something else I just read today, was that the dad was home all afternoon from work that day. He was working from home. This makes me wonder why he hadn't attended the talent show for Kyron either? So sad!
I don't know either. I have felt more compelled to sift through the info out there and keep checking for updates more today than any other day. Like something big is about to happen. But it might not. Maybe I'm over-emotional today. Everyone just wants the answers and closure in whatever form it will be. It does seem like the story has changed a bit. Did the media not have all the facts and just reported a version that made sense? Today was the first time I heard Kyron's father was home also and that he went to the bus stop after school. The bus driver is the one who called the school and the parents drove to the school to check for him themselves?... Whatever the case, this whole thing is overwhelming me today. I have been following since the beginning, but today I feel consumed. I don't claim to have any spiritual insights, just praying for the truth to be shown soon.
I checked the old mill site above for any symbols that have come to you over the past 3 weeks. The only thing I can see are the ladders on the sides of the cylinder mill silos and the 4 could be part of the address. The dirt road along the back side that leads to the river... does anyone pick up on anything there? I have always had the feeling about water and small woods. If her truck was tracked their and her cell phone pinged, could there be tread tracks that LE could check?
I am going to send positive energy to you awesome psychic ladies. I'll be hopeful that something more will come to you today. I'm getting nothing now, except the water.
Thanks for the bing map tip, it was much better! Does anyone know if they searched that area?
And Heather, I know what you mean. I feel very weird today and jumpy! I have some photos from a place I felt compelled to take pictures of this morning. I have to see about getting them off my phone.
The thing is, and I know I'm in a minority here, but I'm not convinced about the step mom being involved. I could be wrong, I've been wrong before. I just feel there is something up today.
I also found a Mill Road that runs parallel to highway 30. It is called NW Mill Road, and is just NW of the Sauvie Island Bridge.
It seems that you and Bex have had the most insight. I hope that others can help provide something more today. Feeling jumpy...I wonder if you all have new/weird energy today because the biological parents both participated in their first interview. My heart is feeling extra heavy today, after watching Desiree (BM) break down in her interview. It was heartbreaking! :(
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4254978/kyron-hormans-parents-speak-out/?playlist_id=87937 I could be really wrong too, but I don't think the SM took him... I get weird feelings around her and definitely think there is something a little offhand, but I don't think she took him.
I just found out why I was feeling anxious, turns out...its not about Kyron, My mother just told me that a close friend of the family was diagnosed with Breast cancer.
I have been reading the posts and although I do not consider myself psychic, I keep getting the image of someone in a cafeteria. Did they have refreshments at the school during the show? I am seeing a delivery truck or bus of some kind and refrigeration. Does anyone know if any type of vehicles relating to food or delivery were at the school that day? I believe that someone working at school or helping at school that day, who this sweet little boy knew, may have had a hand in his disappearance. I am still not ruling out his stepmom... she may have been involved. Everyone said he was timid and shy. He would not have been shy with a familiar face, school worker or someone he saw on a regular basis. My thoughts keep going back to the cafeteria for some reason and someone associated with working there.
Diana, I agree about the SM. I was on the bandwagon there until two days ago. Suddenly something changed inside. Whenever I read anything about her and the speculation around her I felt a block, like someone was saying "no, that's not right". I feel like she's sacrificing something. That's all I will say. I just know Kyron is alive still. We all need to focus our energy, to imagine him being found. Imagine the moment, make it real, let the joy resonate.
I'm sure they have interviewed everyone that was at the school and are even searching for an unidentified man but the police are being very tight lipped. And yes, there is a lot of suspicion about the step mom but in my opinion things have gotten way out of control People are now making up stories right out of crime novel material. Its so sad that so many people seem to be getting some kind of excitement in all of that.
Thank you Bex and Kathleen for posting those videos. I've watched them and I just feel so sorry for Kyrons parents. I am thankful every day that my children are safe and with me. I cannot imagine the hell they are living through right now.
I agree Julie. Like I've said "I" have just never received anything that tells me its her. While I feel she may not be telling the whole story I don't feel part of that story includes hurting Kyron. But I could be wrong, but so could so many others. And in the case, if she didn't do it, how many lives are being ruined and much of the investigation is being hurt and/or even stalled by all of this. I just cannot see how it helps to arm chair detective at this point on the "who's". Its most important to focus on Kyron and trying to find him. And I agree with you, visualizing him being found and putting positive energy into that is much better than spreading around the negative stuff. Thanks
Diana, Hi. I'm in Portland, and have been wandering about trying to find things that match. The LE is looking on Sauvie's Island. There are houseboats moored along the slough there, and they have sailboats and yachts moored along the warf. Could the masts of sailboats along a wooded bank look like the crosses you are drawn to? Just a thought. Thanks
Mee, I think at this point they could be anything. But I feel whatever the symbols represent there will be more than one in the same location. Perhaps leading up to the location. Thats generally how it works for me. Its all in one place or leading you to the place.
Anon. thanks.. I saw that on the map when I tried to find the road. It looked farther away than that. I'm terrible with maps. I'm not even sure that its part of this case, I was just getting weird vibes and things the other day. Thanks
To Anonymous who didn't send the link to the other site but mentioned what some residents were saying from Sauvie Island, first thank you. Thanks for understanding about the links and thanks for understanding why I don't want to post what others are saying. Mostly thanks for emailing anyway knowing that I might not post, but wanting to share anyway. I appreciate that.
I can only imagine what the residents on the island are going through. How awful to have where you live overrun by police and others who are searching or even just gawking. How awful to wonder if where you live has been turned into a crime scene.
My feelings are that what I'm seeing is not about Sauvie Island. Now I can be completely wrong, but I feel no connection one way or the other about that place. I have been wrong before, and I've also gotten things right in regard to seeing the right things but not connecting to them being at a certain place. It could be either, both, or none of the above... can we spell confusing! But I feel, inside and from the beginning, that he is closer to the school. We will only know when they find him. I don't want to think if.
While I was reading though the true crimes blog, I came upon this and immediately thought of your question regarding Mill". Take a look at the Priority Lead #1.This makes reference to a NW Mill address. Here is the link.
Thsnks.. I had seen the video of the friend but hadn't noticed the rest I guess. Interesting, however sometimes I get stuff that just links to the person or others who are close to that person. If that is what I was picking up it might only be because his friends lives there, or his friends dad. I don't know if it could mean any thing else unless there are other things that fit to that location. I am confused at this point about where all of these locations are but I still feel that they need to re-search areas close to the school.
Diana, how did you come up with Mill Road? I just read an article from a website called 'blink on crime'. This website is kind of pointing clues at a dad of a Kyron's friend, which lives on Mill road, along Sauvie Island. This is the first I have heard of this story. Lately, I have been thinking that maybe the stepmom isn't the one that took Kyron. I had this feeling before I saw the article. I started to get this gut feeling that Kyron went with someone he knew very well. I am so lost on this case. I also, do not get the feeling that Kyron is gone. I still am holding out hope.
I have not had a chance to get online for about 5 days, because my toddler came down with a horrible virus and has been so sick, but she is fast on track, getting better, back to her happy self again. During this time, I was PMS'n and there was a full moon. I was an absolute mess. My emotions were all over the board, to say the least. I was scared about my daughter, because her fever got to 106 and even with medicine, we couldn't get it down below 103 for 2 days. It was sooooo scary. Now that she is getting better, with medicine, my emotions are more stable.
That being said, I have been following this case from day one, beacuse I am from Portland, I have a daughter that is almost the same age as Kyron and I was almsot kidnapped, by a stranger, back in 1984 when I was in the 4th grade. I am so overly protective of my children and have a hard time even when they go to school. I cannot believe that Kyron went missing from school.
I have to admit, I was right there with eveyone saying the stepmom is involved with taking Kyron. However, after my emotional break down this week, I honestly can say I was doing a lot more praying than usual, because my daughter was so ill. During this time, I felt this urge, a sudden shift about the stepmom. Kind of like a message from God ....to just relax, stop blaming the stepmom. It's so strange, that I am reading this on your blog from other people, as well. I am now thinking, that she may not be the one everyone is making her out to be. The focus should be somewhere else. I do have to say too, I think Kyron is not dead, like many people believe. The reason people have so much love for Kyron, is because they can feel his love, I think that love is still on this earth. I hope I am right!! I hope he is ok.
First Anon.. Mill Road. Trying to explain this will be sort of weird. Friday morning I wanted to try and focus on Gabriel Johnson. I've been feeling for the last couple of days that what I originally got about Kyron was where they need to go back to. Start over at the beginning. See what is right in front of them. And to make it more weird, I keep getting the Alice in Wonderland references wherever I go now. That is another long story that perhaps I will try to explain later, risking the official "lost my mind" stamp. Going down the rabbit hole!
Anyway.. I sat down to meditate on Gabriel but my energy shifted and I felt very angry. I was lashing out at the person who took my daughter, threatening this person. I was so totally caught up in this feeling of anger when I realized its not me. I have a daughter but thank God she is safe and with me. Then I realized its Somer Thompson. She comes in now and again. I think it was her mother's anger I was channeling. Somer bee bopped around a little and she was showing me Kyron. I ask her to tell me something I didn't know, a location or something that I could confirm. I heard Old Mill Road. When I looked up old mill road I couldn't find one except the one in that other town. That whole day was weird. I had to take a route out my normal way to pick up some papers and I ended up in an area that seemed so important. I took pictures with my phone. A pipe yard with a chain link fence and those concrete round things with ladders going up the side. Then a sign for a lumber yard right across the road. The strangest part was being drawn to the railroad tracks. Now, does any of this make sense? I have no idea. The whole day was weird like that. I do not know if Old Mill Road means anything. It might. It might not be the same road. If it is it could just be a shout out to Kyron's friend.
The strongest feeling I have is that things are getting drawn away from where the focus needs to be. I don't know how else to explain it.
Next Anon.. you guys need to sign up and give me something to call you other than this Anon and that Anon..lol
To start, I am so glad your daughter is better. I know how scary those high fevers can be. Thank goodness when they are that little they bounce back so fast!
Getting personal for a minute, and referring back to your PMS'n, did you know that the full moon really enhances your intuition? Also, if its that time of the month during a full moon then your intuition is even more powerful. All of you men say a collective "Yuck" and get over it.
My point is that with everything you were going through it is very possible that your intuition was peaked and you were able to receive those messages that normally get dismissed. I truly hope so, mostly because I really want to believe Kyron will be found alive. But like I keep saying, they need to stop, re-focus, go back to the beginning with new eyes and see what they might have missed. I am afraid personalities and opinions are getting conflicted and its clouding their search efforts.
You know, I should have said there is a possibility that its not Old Mill Road. If it does mean something it could be an old mill on the road. Sometimes things just aren't what they seem and sometimes they are exactly.
I agree with you Diana, I think LE needs to go back to square one and investigate from the beginning.
I think people in Portland are way up in arms about this case, because they do not want to see another child go missing, after Kyron vanished. We all want to know where that sweet boy is.
A while back ago, when 2 girls went missing from Oregon City (outside of Portland), Miranda and Ashley, LE really failed on this case. Ashley went missing of Jan 02 and LE interviewed several of her friends, who all pointed their fingers to Ward Weaver. In fact, Miranda said that Ashley told her that Ward was molesting her. Only 2 months later, Miranda goes missing. Many tips poored in abour Ward Weaver, but he was never arrested, until he attacked his son's girlfriend many, many months later. In fact, the LE had Ward on their radar from square one, but didn't do anything, until it was way too late.
I really believe our dreams can be special. Around the time when these girls had gone missing, the police never mentioned Ward Weaver as a suspect. I went to bed one night and I will never forget a dream, I had. The crazy thing is, I am not one to really remember my dreams. I can't go through a whole REM process, because I'm such a light sleeper. Anyawy, I had the most vivid dream about this man, who was delivering papers and he walked up to me, tried to grab me and I started running backwards as he tried to chase me. I woke up so freaked out and couldn't explain it. I thought the dream was real. I was trying to fight this guy off me, as he was able to get close enough, that I shot way up in bed and woke up. That same day, I told my mom, for some reason, I know this guy I dreamt about was the guy who kidnapped these girls. I just knew it. I couldn't get it off my mind. My mom said, if you are that convinced, the go to authorities. I couldn't because I had no idea who the man was, only his face image. About a month later, Ward Weaver was arrested for the murders of these girls. I had never seen him before, ever., but when I saw his face on t.v., I almost fainted. It was the exact same guy I had dreamt about in my dream only a month before. It was so eeary.
I really pray that LE doesn't, again, drop the ball and another child goes missing.
You know, I can understand why people are so frenzied about this case. Besides that sweet little face of this innocent boy, if you don't know what happened you would have to be panicked about the safety of your own children. Believing it was the step mom is a safer choice than thinking there is someone out there who just took Kyron. And its always easier to blame than to think it might just be unexplainable.
I do not know what is going on within the police department but I have felt all along there there is a clash of opinions, ego, something. Something that is hindering the investigation. Just my feeling though.
Dreams, they are most often our way of dealing with day to day issues and so on. But I agree, when your dream is very vivid, the sort of dream you know you will remember in detail months or even years later.. those dreams are the ones you need to pay attention to. If you journal then you can go back and see how they have materialized. Its the vivid ones mostly, even if I don't remember them, I always journal the vivid ones and go back over them later. I am never surprised to see that something has come true.
Its very upsetting to hear about yet another case like this Ward guy. It reminds me of John Gardner, the guy who killed Amber Dubois and Chelsey King. How many times did they have Gardner in their sites to then let him go? When will they learn that these people cannot be rehabilitated? How many of our children have to become victims before they find a better way to deal with these criminals?
Anyway, I am getting off track. The police do need to go back to where they started, this time with fresh eyes.
You don't have to be logged in to post as you can see, but if you get an account, I think google or soemthing, your name will appear with your post instead of Anonymous.
Someone had commented with a pic of this man but at first didn't say why so I didn't post but asked about it. They explained that he was the friends dad. I still didn't understand but I'm beginning to.
I didn't mean to stir up anything with that question about Old Mill Road. Honestly, I didn't think there was one near the area. I guess its not really Old Mill Road. I'm not sure what to think.
I only hope that something will happen that will help find Kyron,
Preferring to remain Anon - I will just start signing off as Sunshine, hopefully to help make things easier. ;) Too, just for the record, I myself do not consider myself to be psychic persay, though I have had dreams that ended up becoming a reality and I do get these strong 'feelings' about things that others around me do not seem to pick up.
**Sunshine**
Ok, so at the very beginning - I thought that the step mom could have done it. It seemed like a logical obvious easy choice, particularly when watching her during press conferences. But as this case continued, shortly after the first few days I felt something change about the step mom. And the more I thought about that, and started examining other possible scenarios, the more I started feeling that she may not be completely honest with LE, but I don't feel it is because she is hiding something to do with Kyron. If she Did have a hand in it, and I am not totally dismissing that thought, I don't think she did things out of her own free will or of her own accord, more like she was backed into a place. It is hard getting the real true facts, when we are not being given them. Or when we only get to know half truths/conflicting information.
Before seeing the photos of the school I kept feeling and thinking about something, a need, to see the school. That there is something about the school. Diana, your backwards 4 sent chills when paired with the photo of the blacktop in the courtyard of the school. Because I also noticed another thing - under the covered section are markings that remind me of another shape you saw. The lines under the covered area look like one of your first drawings of the circles with a line through it. I feel there is something key about the school and also about the project Kyron did. I am also getting feelings about the dad. I am not sure why, and I am not convinced exactly what, but there is something not right. Maybe it is because he reminds me of a rabbit? Not sure. But between the dad and step mom there is something though I cannot put my finger on it exactly. A feeling like they are hiding or covering something, or for someone. I tend to believe these feelings, because we aren't seeing much of the step dad but I am not getting any negative feelings about him, or Desiree. I also got feelings about Kyron's uncle - the SO. The instant I saw his picture. It wasn't when I heard about him, but when I saw his photo that I got a really sick feeling, and then a very peaceful feeling. It was odd, actually.
Diana, there is indeed an old mill near the Horman home. I believe it is for sale at the moment. Not sure if anyone lives there or not. But it is old and it is a mill.
Thanks.. I have refrained from making an assumption about sauvie island and the step mom's account of her whereabouts that day. Apparently it is pretty obvious she may not have been truthful. My feelings about that are far simpler than her involvement in the disappearance. Now, I've crossed a line that I had drawn but there are many reasons she may have been somewhere other than where she said and obvious reasons she would try to hide it. That would also totally explain the dad's actions. That is simply where my feelings have been on that. Enough said..
I know that I had seen those pictures of the school on Brians site before. I guess I just didn't slow down enough to really look at them. I am still wondering what those circles with the hourglass shapes are for. That is what I was trying to figure out when I noticed the backwards 4, and I will tell you that it gave me chills too!!!
I agree wholeheartedly with you about the school. The need to start all over, at the beginning, with new eyes.
Also, thanks for the info about the mill. It may mean something, but it may also be nothing more than a validation from Somer of her presence, which is what I asked for.
When I saw that on the map I felt at the time it was just too far. I hate maps though.. Never good at reading them. And it didn't feel right. Whatever it is, if its anything, feels closer.
I read there was speculation about Suavie Island and the Stepmom's phone pings being traced there on the 4th. I can't remember now if that's been talked about here yet or not. And I'm definitely not accusing her, just read they have searched there and wondered if anyone was familiar with it or if any of the visions could be linked there?
ReplyDeleteThere are a few things along Hwy 30. There is actually something I've been thinking about on the SE corner of Sauvie Island, "Alder Creek Lumber." 14456 Northwest Gillihan
ReplyDeleteAlder = Elder? Eckler? Kinda sounds right.
You've also got:
Marina Way Moorage, Multnomah Yacht Repair...
If you look across 30 from the St. Briigita Catholic Church, there are some cylindrical like buildings there.
Pacific Rubber and Packing, Linnton Feed and Seed, Harmer Steel Rail.
More cylinders at the intersection of St. Helens Rd/30 and Hoge. Lots of cylinders and ladders there.
Foss Maritime.
U.S Army Corp of Engineers has a thing on the water there, Olympia Tug and Barge (more cylinders and ladders), Wacker Silktronic Corporation.
There is one on Sauvie Island called Alder Creek Lumber.
ReplyDeletehttp://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=&vps=1&jsv=250a&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=36.642161,56.513672&ie=UTF8&geocode=FeQ4uAIdYhWu-A&split=0
Something else I just read today, was that the dad was home all afternoon from work that day. He was working from home. This makes me wonder why he hadn't attended the talent show for Kyron either? So sad!
In response to your inquiry, BING maps has a better view of an old lumber site:
ReplyDelete14410 NW Gillihan Rd, Portland, OR, United States
I guess the problem how does that tie in? If it ties in??? I have been getting a lot of crazy things today and I just can't figure it all out.
ReplyDeleteI don't know either. I have felt more compelled to sift through the info out there and keep checking for updates more today than any other day. Like something big is about to happen. But it might not. Maybe I'm over-emotional today. Everyone just wants the answers and closure in whatever form it will be.
ReplyDeleteIt does seem like the story has changed a bit. Did the media not have all the facts and just reported a version that made sense? Today was the first time I heard Kyron's father was home also and that he went to the bus stop after school. The bus driver is the one who called the school and the parents drove to the school to check for him themselves?...
Whatever the case, this whole thing is overwhelming me today. I have been following since the beginning, but today I feel consumed. I don't claim to have any spiritual insights, just praying for the truth to be shown soon.
I checked the old mill site above for any symbols that have come to you over the past 3 weeks. The only thing I can see are the ladders on the sides of the cylinder mill silos and the 4 could be part of the address. The dirt road along the back side that leads to the river... does anyone pick up on anything there? I have always had the feeling about water and small woods. If her truck was tracked their and her cell phone pinged, could there be tread tracks that LE could check?
ReplyDeleteI am going to send positive energy to you awesome psychic ladies. I'll be hopeful that something more will come to you today. I'm getting nothing now, except the water.
Thanks for the bing map tip, it was much better! Does anyone know if they searched that area?
ReplyDeleteAnd Heather, I know what you mean. I feel very weird today and jumpy! I have some photos from a place I felt compelled to take pictures of this morning. I have to see about getting them off my phone.
The thing is, and I know I'm in a minority here, but I'm not convinced about the step mom being involved. I could be wrong, I've been wrong before. I just feel there is something up today.
ReplyDeleteI also found a Mill Road that runs parallel to highway 30. It is called NW Mill Road, and is just NW of the Sauvie Island Bridge.
ReplyDeleteIt seems that you and Bex have had the most insight. I hope that others can help provide something more today. Feeling jumpy...I wonder if you all have new/weird energy today because the biological parents both participated in their first interview. My heart is feeling extra heavy today, after watching Desiree (BM) break down in her interview. It was heartbreaking! :(
Its weird you guys are saying that you feel jumpy, I too have been feeling anxious in regards to Kyron.
ReplyDeleteThanks, I couldn't find a mill or old mill road searching google. I only found one in OR and it was in Scappose.
ReplyDeleteI didn't see the interview. What station or show? Perhaps I can find it on the internet.
Thanks again!
Diana, Im with you on that one, I dont think step mom did this.
ReplyDeletehttp://video.foxnews.com/v/4254978/kyron-hormans-parents-speak-out/?playlist_id=87937
ReplyDeleteI could be really wrong too, but I don't think the SM took him...
I get weird feelings around her and definitely think there is something a little offhand, but I don't think she took him.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/kyrons-parents-emotional-plea-home/story?id=11010421
ReplyDeleteThats the link to the interview
I just found out why I was feeling anxious, turns out...its not about Kyron, My mother just told me that a close friend of the family was diagnosed with Breast cancer.
I have been reading the posts and although I do not consider myself psychic, I keep getting the image of someone in a cafeteria. Did they have refreshments at the school during the show? I am seeing a delivery truck or bus of some kind and refrigeration. Does anyone know if any type of vehicles relating to food or delivery were at the school that day?
ReplyDeleteI believe that someone working at school or helping at school that day, who this sweet little boy knew, may have had a hand in his disappearance. I am still not ruling out his stepmom... she may have been involved.
Everyone said he was timid and shy. He would not have been shy with a familiar face, school worker or someone he saw on a regular basis. My thoughts keep going back to the cafeteria for some reason and someone associated with working there.
Diana, I agree about the SM. I was on the bandwagon there until two days ago. Suddenly something changed inside. Whenever I read anything about her and the speculation around her I felt a block, like someone was saying "no, that's not right". I feel like she's sacrificing something. That's all I will say.
ReplyDeleteI just know Kyron is alive still.
We all need to focus our energy, to imagine him being found. Imagine the moment, make it real, let the joy resonate.
I'm sure they have interviewed everyone that was at the school and are even searching for an unidentified man but the police are being very tight lipped. And yes, there is a lot of suspicion about the step mom but in my opinion things have gotten way out of control People are now making up stories right out of crime novel material. Its so sad that so many people seem to be getting some kind of excitement in all of that.
ReplyDeleteHere, I just want to focus on Kyron.
Thank you Bex and Kathleen for posting those videos. I've watched them and I just feel so sorry for Kyrons parents. I am thankful every day that my children are safe and with me. I cannot imagine the hell they are living through right now.
ReplyDeleteI agree Julie. Like I've said "I" have just never received anything that tells me its her. While I feel she may not be telling the whole story I don't feel part of that story includes hurting Kyron. But I could be wrong, but so could so many others. And in the case, if she didn't do it, how many lives are being ruined and much of the investigation is being hurt and/or even stalled by all of this. I just cannot see how it helps to arm chair detective at this point on the "who's". Its most important to focus on Kyron and trying to find him. And I agree with you, visualizing him being found and putting positive energy into that is much better than spreading around the negative stuff. Thanks
ReplyDeleteDiana,
ReplyDeleteHi. I'm in Portland, and have been wandering about trying to find things that match. The LE is looking on Sauvie's Island. There are houseboats moored along the slough there, and they have sailboats and yachts moored along the warf. Could the masts of sailboats along a wooded bank look like the crosses you are drawn to? Just a thought.
Thanks
Not sure if anyone answered you, but there is an Old Mill Road right down the highway from Kyron's school.
ReplyDeleteOld Mill Rd, Scappoose, OR 97056 is only 18 miles from Skyline School. Right down a major highway called Hwy 30.
Mee, I think at this point they could be anything. But I feel whatever the symbols represent there will be more than one in the same location. Perhaps leading up to the location. Thats generally how it works for me. Its all in one place or leading you to the place.
ReplyDeleteAnon. thanks.. I saw that on the map when I tried to find the road. It looked farther away than that. I'm terrible with maps. I'm not even sure that its part of this case, I was just getting weird vibes and things the other day. Thanks
ReplyDeleteTo Anonymous who didn't send the link to the other site but mentioned what some residents were saying from Sauvie Island, first thank you. Thanks for understanding about the links and thanks for understanding why I don't want to post what others are saying. Mostly thanks for emailing anyway knowing that I might not post, but wanting to share anyway. I appreciate that.
ReplyDeleteI can only imagine what the residents on the island are going through. How awful to have where you live overrun by police and others who are searching or even just gawking. How awful to wonder if where you live has been turned into a crime scene.
My feelings are that what I'm seeing is not about Sauvie Island. Now I can be completely wrong, but I feel no connection one way or the other about that place. I have been wrong before, and I've also gotten things right in regard to seeing the right things but not connecting to them being at a certain place. It could be either, both, or none of the above... can we spell confusing! But I feel, inside and from the beginning, that he is closer to the school. We will only know when they find him. I don't want to think if.
While I was reading though the true crimes blog, I came upon this and immediately thought of your question regarding Mill". Take a look at the Priority Lead #1.This makes reference to a NW Mill address. Here is the link.
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I don't know if it means anything, but it may help.
Praying everday for Kyron's return!!
Thsnks.. I had seen the video of the friend but hadn't noticed the rest I guess. Interesting, however sometimes I get stuff that just links to the person or others who are close to that person. If that is what I was picking up it might only be because his friends lives there, or his friends dad. I don't know if it could mean any thing else unless there are other things that fit to that location. I am confused at this point about where all of these locations are but I still feel that they need to re-search areas close to the school.
ReplyDeleteDiana, how did you come up with Mill Road? I just read an article from a website called 'blink on crime'. This website is kind of pointing clues at a dad of a Kyron's friend, which lives on Mill road, along Sauvie Island. This is the first I have heard of this story. Lately, I have been thinking that maybe the stepmom isn't the one that took Kyron. I had this feeling before I saw the article. I started to get this gut feeling that Kyron went with someone he knew very well. I am so lost on this case. I also, do not get the feeling that Kyron is gone. I still am holding out hope.
ReplyDeleteI have not had a chance to get online for about 5 days, because my toddler came down with a horrible virus and has been so sick, but she is fast on track, getting better, back to her happy self again. During this time, I was PMS'n and there was a full moon. I was an absolute mess. My emotions were all over the board, to say the least. I was scared about my daughter, because her fever got to 106 and even with medicine, we couldn't get it down below 103 for 2 days. It was sooooo scary. Now that she is getting better, with medicine, my emotions are more stable.
ReplyDeleteThat being said, I have been following this case from day one, beacuse I am from Portland, I have a daughter that is almost the same age as Kyron and I was almsot kidnapped, by a stranger, back in 1984 when I was in the 4th grade. I am so overly protective of my children and have a hard time even when they go to school. I cannot believe that Kyron went missing from school.
I have to admit, I was right there with eveyone saying the stepmom is involved with taking Kyron. However, after my emotional break down this week, I honestly can say I was doing a lot more praying than usual, because my daughter was so ill. During this time, I felt this urge, a sudden shift about the stepmom. Kind of like a message from God ....to just relax, stop blaming the stepmom. It's so strange, that I am reading this on your blog from other people, as well. I am now thinking, that she may not be the one everyone is making her out to be. The focus should be somewhere else. I do have to say too, I think Kyron is not dead, like many people believe. The reason people have so much love for Kyron, is because they can feel his love, I think that love is still on this earth. I hope I am right!! I hope he is ok.
First Anon.. Mill Road. Trying to explain this will be sort of weird. Friday morning I wanted to try and focus on Gabriel Johnson. I've been feeling for the last couple of days that what I originally got about Kyron was where they need to go back to. Start over at the beginning. See what is right in front of them. And to make it more weird, I keep getting the Alice in Wonderland references wherever I go now. That is another long story that perhaps I will try to explain later, risking the official "lost my mind" stamp. Going down the rabbit hole!
ReplyDeleteAnyway.. I sat down to meditate on Gabriel but my energy shifted and I felt very angry. I was lashing out at the person who took my daughter, threatening this person. I was so totally caught up in this feeling of anger when I realized its not me. I have a daughter but thank God she is safe and with me. Then I realized its Somer Thompson. She comes in now and again. I think it was her mother's anger I was channeling. Somer bee bopped around a little and she was showing me Kyron. I ask her to tell me something I didn't know, a location or something that I could confirm. I heard Old Mill Road. When I looked up old mill road I couldn't find one except the one in that other town. That whole day was weird. I had to take a route out my normal way to pick up some papers and I ended up in an area that seemed so important. I took pictures with my phone. A pipe yard with a chain link fence and those concrete round things with ladders going up the side. Then a sign for a lumber yard right across the road. The strangest part was being drawn to the railroad tracks. Now, does any of this make sense? I have no idea. The whole day was weird like that. I do not know if Old Mill Road means anything. It might. It might not be the same road. If it is it could just be a shout out to Kyron's friend.
The strongest feeling I have is that things are getting drawn away from where the focus needs to be. I don't know how else to explain it.
Next Anon.. you guys need to sign up and give me something to call you other than this Anon and that Anon..lol
ReplyDeleteTo start, I am so glad your daughter is better. I know how scary those high fevers can be. Thank goodness when they are that little they bounce back so fast!
Getting personal for a minute, and referring back to your PMS'n, did you know that the full moon really enhances your intuition? Also, if its that time of the month during a full moon then your intuition is even more powerful. All of you men say a collective "Yuck" and get over it.
My point is that with everything you were going through it is very possible that your intuition was peaked and you were able to receive those messages that normally get dismissed. I truly hope so, mostly because I really want to believe Kyron will be found alive. But like I keep saying, they need to stop, re-focus, go back to the beginning with new eyes and see what they might have missed. I am afraid personalities and opinions are getting conflicted and its clouding their search efforts.
You know, I should have said there is a possibility that its not Old Mill Road. If it does mean something it could be an old mill on the road. Sometimes things just aren't what they seem and sometimes they are exactly.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you Diana, I think LE needs to go back to square one and investigate from the beginning.
ReplyDeleteI think people in Portland are way up in arms about this case, because they do not want to see another child go missing, after Kyron vanished. We all want to know where that sweet boy is.
A while back ago, when 2 girls went missing from Oregon City (outside of Portland), Miranda and Ashley, LE really failed on this case. Ashley went missing of Jan 02 and LE interviewed several of her friends, who all pointed their fingers to Ward Weaver. In fact, Miranda said that Ashley told her that Ward was molesting her. Only 2 months later, Miranda goes missing. Many tips poored in abour Ward Weaver, but he was never arrested, until he attacked his son's girlfriend many, many months later. In fact, the LE had Ward on their radar from square one, but didn't do anything, until it was way too late.
I really believe our dreams can be special. Around the time when these girls had gone missing, the police never mentioned Ward Weaver as a suspect. I went to bed one night and I will never forget a dream, I had. The crazy thing is, I am not one to really remember my dreams. I can't go through a whole REM process, because I'm such a light sleeper. Anyawy, I had the most vivid dream about this man, who was delivering papers and he walked up to me, tried to grab me and I started running backwards as he tried to chase me. I woke up so freaked out and couldn't explain it. I thought the dream was real. I was trying to fight this guy off me, as he was able to get close enough, that I shot way up in bed and woke up. That same day, I told my mom, for some reason, I know this guy I dreamt about was the guy who kidnapped these girls. I just knew it. I couldn't get it off my mind. My mom said, if you are that convinced, the go to authorities. I couldn't because I had no idea who the man was, only his face image. About a month later, Ward Weaver was arrested for the murders of these girls. I had never seen him before, ever., but when I saw his face on t.v., I almost fainted. It was the exact same guy I had dreamt about in my dream only a month before. It was so eeary.
I really pray that LE doesn't, again, drop the ball and another child goes missing.
You know, I can understand why people are so frenzied about this case. Besides that sweet little face of this innocent boy, if you don't know what happened you would have to be panicked about the safety of your own children. Believing it was the step mom is a safer choice than thinking there is someone out there who just took Kyron. And its always easier to blame than to think it might just be unexplainable.
ReplyDeleteI do not know what is going on within the police department but I have felt all along there there is a clash of opinions, ego, something. Something that is hindering the investigation. Just my feeling though.
Dreams, they are most often our way of dealing with day to day issues and so on. But I agree, when your dream is very vivid, the sort of dream you know you will remember in detail months or even years later.. those dreams are the ones you need to pay attention to. If you journal then you can go back and see how they have materialized. Its the vivid ones mostly, even if I don't remember them, I always journal the vivid ones and go back over them later. I am never surprised to see that something has come true.
Its very upsetting to hear about yet another case like this Ward guy. It reminds me of John Gardner, the guy who killed Amber Dubois and Chelsey King. How many times did they have Gardner in their sites to then let him go? When will they learn that these people cannot be rehabilitated? How many of our children have to become victims before they find a better way to deal with these criminals?
Anyway, I am getting off track. The police do need to go back to where they started, this time with fresh eyes.
Do I need to be logged in?
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NW Mill Rd. (maybe it is street, I don't know)is on the Multnomah Channel (of the COlumbia River) where they have been searching due to some tip
The Horman Family lives next door to the son of the man that lives on this road where they were searching
You don't have to be logged in to post as you can see, but if you get an account, I think google or soemthing, your name will appear with your post instead of Anonymous.
ReplyDeleteSomeone had commented with a pic of this man but at first didn't say why so I didn't post but asked about it. They explained that he was the friends dad. I still didn't understand but I'm beginning to.
I didn't mean to stir up anything with that question about Old Mill Road. Honestly, I didn't think there was one near the area. I guess its not really Old Mill Road. I'm not sure what to think.
I only hope that something will happen that will help find Kyron,
Preferring to remain Anon - I will just start signing off as Sunshine, hopefully to help make things easier. ;) Too, just for the record, I myself do not consider myself to be psychic persay, though I have had dreams that ended up becoming a reality and I do get these strong 'feelings' about things that others around me do not seem to pick up.
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Ok, so at the very beginning - I thought that the step mom could have done it. It seemed like a logical obvious easy choice, particularly when watching her during press conferences. But as this case continued, shortly after the first few days I felt something change about the step mom. And the more I thought about that, and started examining other possible scenarios, the more I started feeling that she may not be completely honest with LE, but I don't feel it is because she is hiding something to do with Kyron. If she Did have a hand in it, and I am not totally dismissing that thought, I don't think she did things out of her own free will or of her own accord, more like she was backed into a place. It is hard getting the real true facts, when we are not being given them. Or when we only get to know half truths/conflicting information.
Before seeing the photos of the school I kept feeling and thinking about something, a need, to see the school. That there is something about the school. Diana, your backwards 4 sent chills when paired with the photo of the blacktop in the courtyard of the school. Because I also noticed another thing - under the covered section are markings that remind me of another shape you saw. The lines under the covered area look like one of your first drawings of the circles with a line through it. I feel there is something key about the school and also about the project Kyron did. I am also getting feelings about the dad. I am not sure why, and I am not convinced exactly what, but there is something not right. Maybe it is because he reminds me of a rabbit? Not sure. But between the dad and step mom there is something though I cannot put my finger on it exactly. A feeling like they are hiding or covering something, or for someone. I tend to believe these feelings, because we aren't seeing much of the step dad but I am not getting any negative feelings about him, or Desiree. I also got feelings about Kyron's uncle - the SO. The instant I saw his picture. It wasn't when I heard about him, but when I saw his photo that I got a really sick feeling, and then a very peaceful feeling. It was odd, actually.
Diana, there is indeed an old mill near the Horman home. I believe it is for sale at the moment. Not sure if anyone lives there or not. But it is old and it is a mill.
Sunshine.. that is what my husband calls me..:-)
ReplyDeleteThanks.. I have refrained from making an assumption about sauvie island and the step mom's account of her whereabouts that day. Apparently it is pretty obvious she may not have been truthful. My feelings about that are far simpler than her involvement in the disappearance. Now, I've crossed a line that I had drawn but there are many reasons she may have been somewhere other than where she said and obvious reasons she would try to hide it. That would also totally explain the dad's actions. That is simply where my feelings have been on that. Enough said..
I know that I had seen those pictures of the school on Brians site before. I guess I just didn't slow down enough to really look at them. I am still wondering what those circles with the hourglass shapes are for. That is what I was trying to figure out when I noticed the backwards 4, and I will tell you that it gave me chills too!!!
I agree wholeheartedly with you about the school. The need to start all over, at the beginning, with new eyes.
Also, thanks for the info about the mill. It may mean something, but it may also be nothing more than a validation from Somer of her presence, which is what I asked for.
There is an Old Mill Road in Scappoose Oregon (zip 97056) which is about 26 miles from Kyron's school.
ReplyDeleteWhen I saw that on the map I felt at the time it was just too far. I hate maps though.. Never good at reading them. And it didn't feel right. Whatever it is, if its anything, feels closer.
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